1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:18 pm

Here is my unrestored heavy solid brass windshield hinges that are made for use on a Toy Tonneau style body. You will note that the hinge has two catches, one for the upright location of the upper frame while the bottom frame is positioned on about a 45 deg. angle. The other position allows the upper frame to lay forward over the bottom frame letting you have a little wind in your hair! Notice the two indents and the support rod.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:22 pm

Here is the second view that shows the profile of the windshield frame. I have located a source for new windshield frame stock to renew and make whole this assembly like new and ready to fit to the Locomobile.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:47 am

I am after another "TIP". While I am sourcing parts for the windshield assembly shown above, I also have another slight need for a top saddle missing locking lever. Below is a picture of a scalloped top saddle with the locking lever. This is the good and complete saddle I have. I also have a second and match to this saddle but this one is missing the locking lever. Do you happen to have a broken or badly rusted saddle that still has the locking lever? I do have the formed spring and just need the locking lever. A "TIP" or reference of who to check with would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Thu Feb 06, 2020 8:15 pm

I have been thinking about the time frame and change from the "Brass" to "Nickle" in our early automobiles. Here is a picture of a cast brass cap that is Nickle plated. Who may be able to share some definitive information on what year Locomobile offered Nickle. Was it some of 1911, Some of 1912 or all of 1912, or optional until 1913 or 1914. That is about the time frame that Locomobile changed from cast hubcaps to the much more well known stamped caps. You "TIPS" or "ADVICE" on this subject are appreciated.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Tue Feb 11, 2020 1:19 pm

I have need of a foundry that is capable of the "Lost Wax" casting method. Who can share a "TIP"?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Thu Feb 13, 2020 10:02 am

While you are considering if you know of and can refer me to a good smaller foundry that does "lost wax" type castings, I will share a "TIP" on a different subject. This tip involves using a good eye for small details that certainly help a car when fully restored. Shown below is a MFG. tag from an early Locomobile that certainly would help to put the finishing touch to a dashboard and make the restoration complete.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:08 pm

Can anyone share a picture of the same tag I have shown above, but located on your car. I have a couple of questions.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed Feb 26, 2020 9:10 am

Here is my "TIP" for the day. It is important to keep "enthused" on whatever project you may be working on. This is my inspiration, a picture of the same model Locomobile that I am restoring and this picture hangs right over my desk where I see it every day. It does help to keep me as focused as possible as I work my way through each day and all the involved distractions. What do you use to help keep you focused?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Mar 01, 2020 7:40 pm

I have received a "TIP" about a Foundry in Pa. Does anyone have knowledge of the "Cattail" foundry. If the responses are good, regarding this reference, I would like to give "Cattail" a try for a couple of castings I need for the 1909 Locomobile as well as a couple of other projects.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:08 pm

I have been thinking a bunch about Brass and the way it looks, with Coronavirus, we may have more time on our hands to mess in the garage than we have thought! It also appears that our usual Swap Meet shopping may be shut down for this year. So, I will try to post a "Tip" to keep us up and thinking. I will attach a couple of pictures of large series Locomobile script Solarclipse headlamps. I will compare the Solar lamps to the Rushmore just so you can see for yourself the differences. The "Tip" is to know your parts so you do not purchase the wrong item during the restoration process.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:12 pm

Here are a few Pictures of the Rushmore lights for my Locomobile.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Tue Mar 17, 2020 6:15 pm

Here is a few pictures of a Rushmore headlamp that needs some body repairs.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:58 am

I need a "TIP", Where is a good source for round head brass rivets?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Mar 22, 2020 6:35 am

Thanks Cudaman, I will give Big Flats a call and see if they offer soft brass round head rivets.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:23 am

The "TIP" of the day...
What tip can be shared about how we are using our time during this Coronavirus Pandemic event that has the attention of the whole world? My aspect for a "TIP", is to spend some quiet time and actually do some specific planning on your restoration project, in my case the Locomobile. Share your thoughts...
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by jeff deringer » Wed Mar 25, 2020 11:07 am

My problem is that I tend to spend too much quiet time in the shop planning my restoration project versus doing it. That's why the garbage can is full of beer cans and not restoration by-products!

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed Mar 25, 2020 6:38 pm

Well Jeff,
It sounds like you sure know how to enjoy and invest your time! Did you ever get a chance to take a picture of your extra Overland radiator? I don't recall, what year and model is it for? Were you able to sort our your magneto issue? Is your area dealing with much Coronavirus?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by jeff deringer » Thu Mar 26, 2020 11:59 am

Alan,
I apologize, I haven't taken a photo of the radiator. It would be from a 14-15 Overland, I'll have to look. In the meantime, I found a beautiful one for sale and thought of you. Unfortunately, the guy is asking $1200. Looks to be a 15 Model 80 to me. It is very nice, but should be for that price. If you're interested in that one let me know and I'll send you the contact info.

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As far as the mag, it's a work in progress, but it is back on the car. I think I have it timed right, but we'll see. I am currently finishing up re-doing all the linkage for it and the carburetor so I have better control when trying to start it. It was a quick low quality temp set up until I got it running. I decided that was stupid and am trying to get it finished properly. The main problem is my job keeps getting in the way!

Yes, Covid-19 is a huge deal here in SW Washington. Protocols, regulations, work plans, essential projects, etc etc. Just trying to tough it out to the other side!

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:35 am

Hello Jeff,
Thanks for the "TIP" for the radiator Durocar is offering. That is a nice radiator for sure, but my pockets are simply not that deep. When you get a chance send me a picture or two of the radiator you have. Good luck with your set up and ultimately running Overland.
Al

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