1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by jeff deringer » Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:44 pm

Thanks Pete and Al. Away taking the boy back to college, even though they announced online only last week.
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Will try when we return.

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Post by alsfarms » Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:26 am

Good advice.....Take care of the education and training of the next generation, wisdom comes to our youth with time! Keep us in the loop with your Overland Jeff.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Thu Aug 13, 2020 2:22 pm

I have been scrounging around to see if I can determine the degree of original paint striping that would have been found on my type Locomobile when new. That said, a while back I noticed a couple of original pictures of a 1911 or 1912 Locomobile Model L Toy Tonneau and bought them. Now the study begins. I am going to need to blow them up with as much clear detail as possible in order to see any visible paint striping. I will post both pictures for you to enjoy. By the way, if you know of one of your ancestors who owned this type and year Locomobile, get in touch, I may have your family pictures. My "Tip" of the day is to study old original pictures to get finite details about our antique automobiles.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by cudaman » Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:59 am

I attempted a bit of editing on the pics to try and bring out more detail, hope you don't mind.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by jeff deringer » Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:39 pm

That’s an awesome looking car.

Funny story. When I acquired my 15 Overland Speedster, I knew it would have to be restored and many things changed. Since they didn’t make a true speedster in 15 I wanted to see what other “made up” 15’s looked like. I went to my Gazette photo index and found all the issues that showed a 15 Overland Speedster in them. There were 4 or 5, but all older than the ones I had. I found someone selling old Gazettes and he had all the ones I needed. I was so excited when they arrived in the mail I ripped them open and found the Overland’s I might base mine upon. Surprise! They were all of the car I had purchased! Ha ha! It was a long time toured car from California that had been on every Blossom Tour for 21 years or so. Funny.
I guess a good tip here is that the Gazette has a photo index listing which issue every car appears in.

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Post by alsfarms » Sat Aug 15, 2020 12:32 pm

Nice story you added! Can anyone else ad pictures of an original 4 cylinder Locomobile, (any model)? I am wanting to verify several small details, on my automobile as well as to get some ideas of what was done to the paint job to make them great.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Tue Aug 18, 2020 7:01 am

I have got one nice side shot of a new Locomobile Model L, at the factory, I can see no stripping on it at all. But that only tells me that the particular automobile in the picture may not be ready for release and shipment yet. What are your thoughts and ideas?
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Thu Aug 27, 2020 1:40 pm

I am desirous to get an idea for the gasoline cap. I will build what I need or get a casting, but I do want to end up withas would have been from the factory. Can anyone share a picture from a four cylinder car or an early 6 cylinder car, (Locomobile)?
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:58 am

Here is a picture of a 1913 Locomobile 48 gasoline cap provided by another forum poster. Does anyone know if it is the same as would be found on a 1909-10 Locomobile Model L?
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by pauljac » Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:45 pm

Al,
Compare the p/n on the cap to the p/n in the parts list. They may be the same. Compare the model l parts list with your parts list.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:53 am

Hello Paul,
I will check to see what my scant literature may tell me about the interchange of gasoline caps.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:38 pm

I looked through my original 1909-10 Locomobile Service and Repair Manual to see what I could determine about the gas cap differences between a Model L and a Model M. With much study I could find plenty of Locomobile part numbers for a wide variety of mechanical parts but nothing for the fuel delivery system. Not even a good picture. Does anyone have other ideas on researching the part numbers for the early Locomobile? Maybe I will need to go back to the Bridgeport Public Library....
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:52 am

Hello everyone. I thought I would share a picture of a, recast of an original, factory authorized radiator ornament. These were sold in 1909 and 1910 being a radiator trophy to commemorate Locomobile victory at the Vanderbilt Cup race in 1908 with car number 16. That car is now known as Old 16. I will be most happy to install this radiator trophy ornament on the 1909 Model L. This Trophy ornament was recently purchased from another gracious Locomobile enthusiast, thanks to him for making this addition to my restoration possible.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Thu Oct 22, 2020 6:49 pm

Here is a "Tip" that shows what a Locomobile 1909 Baby Tonneau looks like with this Trophy radiator ornament looks like.
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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by jeff deringer » Fri Oct 23, 2020 8:35 am

Dang that's a gorgeous car.

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Re: 1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

Post by alsfarms » Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:15 am

Looking closely at that above vintage picture, that fellow must have be a close fit under the steering wheel with his winter wear. I also notice no top assembly is attached to the Locomobile. I wonder if this "New" Locomobile is being shown by a Locmobile dignitary prior to being sold?
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