Dimension and thickness of early angle iron frames

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Dimension and thickness of early angle iron frames

Post by alsfarms » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:15 pm

What is the general flange dimension on early automobiles that use angle iron for the frame rails? Also what is the thickness?
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Post by wjguthrie » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:08 am

From experience I would say 1 1/2 angle iron 3/16 or 1/4 thick. You could go to the metal shop see if a piece of it supports your weight.
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Post by alsfarms » Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:42 am

I had the thought that the frame member, built from typical angle iron would have the vert. leg longer that the orizontal leg. I agree, without any experience, 1/4" would probably be suitable.

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Post by FullerMetz » Sat Jan 21, 2012 2:13 am

So I just went down and measured the various parts of the frame and supports on the early gasoline carriage I am working on. Unfortunately, I can't tell you what it is, because I don't know yet. Research is continuing.
The two side rails are 2 inch by 2 inch. The front and rear cross pieces are 1 3/4 by 1 3/4. Three additional cross pieces, two are 1 1/2 by 1 1/2. the third one is 1 1/2 by 2 inch. All pieces appear to be 1/4 inch thick.
I hope this helps.
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Post by alsfarms » Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:42 am

Thanks for taking the time to post a picture and sharing measurements. I do appreciate any help as I begin restoration of my pile of parts.

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Post by wjguthrie » Sun Jan 22, 2012 5:52 am

The photo above and below are from an Ebay auction that I didn't win so I can't take measurements and give more details. A man I met through the HCCA forum (PaulSantone) and I are interested in building early cars, and would like to see pictures of other projects.
Cross members are riveted and engine supports are bolted.
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Little Giant frame dimensions

Post by wmacdonald » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:50 pm

For what it's worth, the frame on my 1911 Little Giant bus is made up mostly of 2 x 2 x 1/4 angle, with two angles being used per side in the middle of the frame. This chassis has a 1 ton capacity so the design won't directly apply to a passenger car.
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Early angle iron frames

Post by alsfarms » Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:51 am

Thanks for taking the time to send pictures of early angle iron frames and parts. If anyone else has pictures, please post. I am trying to learn and prepare myself before I start on my porject.
Alan
PS: I am also looking for an open style planetary transmission. Does anyone know of one that is available?

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