1909 Locomobile Toy Tonneau, Rebuild Improvements for Reliability

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Mon May 04, 2020 12:16 pm

Here is the "Tip" of the day. Plan your parts ordering carefully to avoid any calamities in the future. I have on order a carefully measured new all brass windshield assembly to use with the original hinges shown on the top of page 12 of this blog. These shown hinges are robust and have a solid lock position for the bottom frame to be at a 45 degree angle back and then position the top frame in the vertical position. Now, I need a "Tip", does anyone close to me know of a good source for cutting/fitting 3/16" laminated safety glass for installation into this new brass windshield frame assembly?

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed May 06, 2020 1:02 pm

More good news and an update.... An acquaintance and fellow Locomobile owner kept his eye open, for me, for a cast Brass hubcap. Bless his heart, as a result of his help, I will soon have a clean cast brass front hubcap, in my possession, so I can drop out the lesser of my front hubcaps, that I currently have, in favor of using a better cap. Now, if I can do the same thing and find an original cast brass rear cap that is better that one I have, (I have one that needs plenty of love in order to use on my Locomobile). Keep your eyes open for me please. The "TIP" of the day is to never give up and help one another as we scrounge for missing pieces for our early automobiles. You can never have enough friends, even in this hobby!

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed May 06, 2020 1:03 pm

I will post a picture of this new found hubcap as soon as it arrives.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun May 17, 2020 11:02 am

Here is a pair of pictures that prove Christmas can come on May 16! A fellow Locomobile owner, on the east coast, had his eyes open for me watching for cast brass Locomobile hub caps. The "TIP" for this day is to be helpful with each other as we hunt and try to get our antique automobiles back together. Thanks to my Locomobile friend, for arranging purchase of this original hubcap, that I now have in my possession. I can now pick and choose for the best of the three front hubcaps I now have, to complete the front axle on the 1909 Locomobile.
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Picture 1 (shows some road rash that needs some love to make it a nicer cap).
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun May 17, 2020 11:07 am

Hubcap picture 2 (center emblem needs to be smoothed out).
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by jeff deringer » Sun May 17, 2020 1:28 pm

What an awesome find! I wish more people in the hobby would read and participate on this forum. Lots of needed parts out there and folks willing to help out. Connecting the two is the old and never-ending challenge.

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun May 17, 2020 2:05 pm

Hello Jeff,
You are right on with your thoughts. I can't say that the "parts chase" is the hobby, which it is not, but it is certainly a big part of it. I also am hopeful for more readership and actual participation. That participation will help propel this hobby into the next generation, in a healthy fashion. Thanks for your posting.
Al

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by Susanne » Mon May 25, 2020 4:15 pm

You cannot cut "tempered, laminated" glass without making a disaster... I've tried grinding it and was only minimally successful until I made some beautifully spider-webbed art glass... at a few hundred $$ it was less than satisfuing...

To do 3/16 laminated tempered, you need to find a shop that will either order it for you, or cut them and have a place to send them off to for tempering and laminating. It can be done, and a number of older restorers did just that, but once it's done, there are no more size adjustments...

My inspiration (from a couple pages back)? - I can see my car (which is no Locomobile, tho I wish --grins--) from my bedroom window, and when I wake up and look outside, it's looking back at me. If there's better inspiration than that, I don't know!

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Mon May 25, 2020 7:31 pm

OK, I am curious, what type of automobile is your "inspiration" (seen from your bedroom window) to keep you focused as much as possible on your priorities?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Wed May 27, 2020 6:49 am

Here is a news "Tip". The casting project for the three plates, (per page 13) is nearing completion....good news if you are in need.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Thu May 28, 2020 10:41 am

Here is another "TIP" or update on the Locomobile project. It always pays to keep your eyes open as you never know what someone may have that will work and is correct for your current project. I located and purchased a very nice tail light bracket that matches my Locomobile side light brackets. Here is a picture of it.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:42 am

"TIP" of the day, jump or buy when you find what you need. Don't wait! This piece was part of a purchase that included the tail light bracket shown above. I was not looking for a side-mount bracket, at the time. but it works for me and I can take care of the finish machining. I should have a few more pieces coming, in a few days, to complete the side-mount bracket set from another collector. I will post pictures, of those other pieces, when they arrive.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by F12MAC » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:20 pm

Al as they say strike when the iron is hot. Cheers pete

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Jun 07, 2020 12:51 pm

Here is another addition to the tire mount for the Locomobile. I am guess that it would be best to use this mounting bracket to mount the tire support to the back of the tire with the bracket mounted unit the drivers seat. That is the "advice" you would share?
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:35 am

Locomobile "Tip" of the day. I have, in hand, the recast three items as shown on Page 13. For comparison I will attach pictures of the new castings. The new castings turned out very good!
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Mon Jun 08, 2020 11:36 am

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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

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Picture three (Threshold)
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:48 am

I am getting closer to having all the pieces needed in order to set the brackets for a single side mounted spare tire. Does anyone have good photo's of the front bracket that holds the front of the tire with the bracket mounted to the cowl section of the body. The Locomobile is a Toy Tonneau with an aluminum skin so I am looking at the best means to mount the spare tire bracket up front. Any "TIPS" or "Advice" is appreciated.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:48 pm

Here is a picture for your evaluation that will help with potential advice on mounting the spare tire bracket to the cowling.
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Re: Rebuild Improvements for Reliability 1909 Locomobile

Post by alsfarms » Sun Jun 14, 2020 4:52 pm

More information as I had asked for advice on mounting the spare tire bracket as show on the factory picture above. I will attach a couple of picture showing the under structure of the Locomobile Toy Tonneau body.
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